Comments on: Should employers be blocking access to Facebook? http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/ Tom Raftery, social media consultant, speaker, blogger and podcaster Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:17:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Mr. Briggs http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-345745 Mr. Briggs Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:00:36 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-345745 @frankp: You like police states? Nobody will join your company. I mean, banning Facebook is one thing, but monitoring screens 24/7 just to check if people are spending 15-minute breaks on sites that aren't directly relevant to work? I don't mean to call you an authoritarian fascist, but your suggestion gives me that impression. If I'm offending you, please say so and I'll apologize. If a company actually did that, I doubt they'd last very long. I mean, if you're fired from a company because you spent 15 minutes on Youtube while at work, I doubt other companies would blacklist you. It's only a problem if like 40% of your time is spent on there. Besides that, I don't use Facebook and Youtube that much. So I'm "meh, could be worse" on all these rules anyway. @frankp: You like police states? Nobody will join your company. I mean, banning Facebook is one thing, but monitoring screens 24/7 just to check if people are spending 15-minute breaks on sites that aren’t directly relevant to work?

I don’t mean to call you an authoritarian fascist, but your suggestion gives me that impression. If I’m offending you, please say so and I’ll apologize. If a company actually did that, I doubt they’d last very long. I mean, if you’re fired from a company because you spent 15 minutes on Youtube while at work, I doubt other companies would blacklist you. It’s only a problem if like 40% of your time is spent on there.

Besides that, I don’t use Facebook and Youtube that much. So I’m “meh, could be worse” on all these rules anyway.

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By: IT minded http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-344438 IT minded Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:32:28 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-344438 Being an IT administrator, and keeping with trends in everything technologically related, I have to say this: - I have personally witnessed logs of internet activity at my work where we can easily track the internet usage of any particular work computer. In various occasions we saw "spurges" of facebook.com, myspace, etc. (and other "networking" sites use) on computers where only one person uses that particular computer. The sad thing is, that charting the amount of time spent on those sites, we could easily see that over 90% spent more than 3/4 (and even MORE) of their alloted "work" time on those sites. Would you have your employees make use of the technology to suit their personal tastes and misuse of time, or to advance your work environment with productive employees, readily available for your customers calling on the phone (the later ringing all the time while employees paid to answer have their attention "fixed" on the computer browsing social sites.) What would you do? - Use of such sites to harass, intimidate and otherwise "follow" the actions of work partners; and a plethora of other social misconduct. In a school setting I saw evidence of many employees of the school exchanging personal photos taken at the beach of students of that school who uploaded them to the site, re-sending the photos thru the school's email with subjects like: Hunk collection, take your pick. I believe it is VERY morally questionable that employees feel they have the liberty of doing such endeavors. Even with a written policy, who can control the actions of such "bad seed" employees? - Getting information from someone on FB, Myspace, etc. is just restricted to how much information that person gives about his personal life. It has NOT happened yet, but what if a stalker, serial killer, or someone with ulterior motives uses those networks as their "tool" to profile potential victims? Is there something these networks are doing to avoid/limit this potential use of their networks? None that I know of. Being an IT administrator, and keeping with trends in everything technologically related, I have to say this:

- I have personally witnessed logs of internet activity at my work where we can easily track the internet usage of any particular work computer. In various occasions we saw “spurges” of facebook.com, myspace, etc. (and other “networking” sites use) on computers where only one person uses that particular computer. The sad thing is, that charting the amount of time spent on those sites, we could easily see that over 90% spent more than 3/4 (and even MORE) of their alloted “work” time on those sites. Would you have your employees make use of the technology to suit their personal tastes and misuse of time, or to advance your work environment with productive employees, readily available for your customers calling on the phone (the later ringing all the time while employees paid to answer have their attention “fixed” on the computer browsing social sites.) What would you do?

- Use of such sites to harass, intimidate and otherwise “follow” the actions of work partners; and a plethora of other social misconduct. In a school setting I saw evidence of many employees of the school exchanging personal photos taken at the beach of students of that school who uploaded them to the site, re-sending the photos thru the school’s email with subjects like: Hunk collection, take your pick. I believe it is VERY morally questionable that employees feel they have the liberty of doing such endeavors. Even with a written policy, who can control the actions of such “bad seed” employees?

- Getting information from someone on FB, Myspace, etc. is just restricted to how much information that person gives about his personal life. It has NOT happened yet, but what if a stalker, serial killer, or someone with ulterior motives uses those networks as their “tool” to profile potential victims? Is there something these networks are doing to avoid/limit this potential use of their networks? None that I know of.

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By: so1ange http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-303061 so1ange Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:31:46 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-303061 Facebook sucks, but that is not a reason to ban it, let the little people check out hot, popular, worldly and wanted they are, blah di blah di blah, let them poke and throw snowballs, come on with your bloody unhatched eggs and fun slides. I unfortunately have to have a facebook account because most of my family and aquaintances (?) deem it the only method of communication and seeing as we are so far removed from each other and a phone call would bust my weekly budget this is the option. This whole thing will wear off like an old myspace account, when I have finished my studies I plan to open a whole can of social networking worms, forget this tamagochi stuff, it is going to get a lot worse. Believe me, I hate Facebook already Facebook sucks, but that is not a reason to ban it, let the little people check out hot, popular, worldly and wanted they are, blah di blah di blah, let them poke and throw snowballs, come on with your bloody unhatched eggs and fun slides. I unfortunately have to have a facebook account because most of my family and aquaintances (?) deem it the only method of communication and seeing as we are so far removed from each other and a phone call would bust my weekly budget this is the option. This whole thing will wear off like an old myspace account, when I have finished my studies I plan to open a whole can of social networking worms, forget this tamagochi stuff, it is going to get a lot worse.
Believe me, I hate Facebook already

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By: Randall http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-218558 Randall Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:21:03 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-218558 I do agree that Facebook is a very good networking tool; however, it is very rare that that is the case. I feel that employees spending company time on Facebook is honestly a waste of assets and resources. Here is the official company overview from www.facebook.com: "Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. Millions of people use Facebook everyday to keep up with friends, upload an unlimited number of photos, share links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet." Yes, it does connect people around the world. Yes, it does provide networking opportunities. The thing is, everyone uses facebook for different reasons. Do you remember when Facebook started? Yeah, it required a college email. It gave college students across the world the chance to connect with old friends or even make new ones. Yes, this was the networking/social strength that gave Facebook the edge over any other social-networking sites. Of course, this was one thing that appealed to so many people at the time; it gave college students their own networking system. Myspace couldn't do that, but Facebook opened their doors to the rest of the world and with it came the downfall of the sites' original intentions. Yes, there might be a small percentage of people that use Facebook as a networking tool to further their careers but a majority use it for the following reasons: -Check one of their useless apps like honesty box or to feed their imaginary internet pet -Check to see if that stranger returned your un-welcomed "poke" -Look up photos of friends. Yes, it is very nice to see how friends are doing. Do it on your own time, not the company's time. -Leave a comment on friends' photos -Write on someone's wall. -Just to check your profile to see if anything has changed within the last 5 minutes. -Look up random people and add them because they are "cute" or have "a hot profile picture." While it would be networking if you actually talked to the person it is stalking when you just look at their pictures, you creeper. The list of useless time wasting things could go on-and-on, just like the list of applications and groups. Facebook might have been an acceptable networking tool 5 years ago but it is not anymore. Employers should not have to pay people because the employee wants to sit on the computer and look at peoples' pictures instead of working and doing what they're being paid to do. I do agree that Facebook is a very good networking tool; however, it is very rare that that is the case. I feel that employees spending company time on Facebook is honestly a waste of assets and resources.
Here is the official company overview from http://www.facebook.com:
“Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

Millions of people use Facebook everyday to keep up with friends, upload an unlimited number of photos, share links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet.”
Yes, it does connect people around the world. Yes, it does provide networking opportunities. The thing is, everyone uses facebook for different reasons. Do you remember when Facebook started? Yeah, it required a college email. It gave college students across the world the chance to connect with old friends or even make new ones. Yes, this was the networking/social strength that gave Facebook the edge over any other social-networking sites. Of course, this was one thing that appealed to so many people at the time; it gave college students their own networking system. Myspace couldn’t do that, but Facebook opened their doors to the rest of the world and with it came the downfall of the sites’ original intentions.
Yes, there might be a small percentage of people that use Facebook as a networking tool to further their careers but a majority use it for the following reasons:
-Check one of their useless apps like honesty box or to feed their imaginary internet pet
-Check to see if that stranger returned your un-welcomed “poke”
-Look up photos of friends. Yes, it is very nice to see how friends are doing. Do it on your own time, not the company’s time.
-Leave a comment on friends’ photos
-Write on someone’s wall.
-Just to check your profile to see if anything has changed within the last 5 minutes.
-Look up random people and add them because they are “cute” or have “a hot profile picture.” While it would be networking if you actually talked to the person it is stalking when you just look at their pictures, you creeper.
The list of useless time wasting things could go on-and-on, just like the list of applications and groups. Facebook might have been an acceptable networking tool 5 years ago but it is not anymore. Employers should not have to pay people because the employee wants to sit on the computer and look at peoples’ pictures instead of working and doing what they’re being paid to do.

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By: Vicky http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-116653 Vicky Mon, 12 May 2008 15:24:42 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-116653 It's ridiculous to block facebook and other sites. I use facebook to look at pictures of my son that get posted when I am at work. Also to keep in touch with family over my lunch hour. Sure, block facebook and other such sites, if you want company morale to go way down. People deserve to have a little fun. Most of us work very hard and we should be allowed to use our breaks in whatever way we want. I work in a very stressful career field (child welfare) and used to really enjoy using my breaksto look at pictures, catch up with family and friends on facebook. Now they have taken all that away, and are sucking the life out of us. We work during our lunch hour often enough, and I don't hear any employers complaining about that. It’s ridiculous to block facebook and other sites. I use facebook to look at pictures of my son that get posted when I am at work. Also to keep in touch with family over my lunch hour. Sure, block facebook and other such sites, if you want company morale to go way down. People deserve to have a little fun. Most of us work very hard and we should be allowed to use our breaks in whatever way we want. I work in a very stressful career field (child welfare) and used to really enjoy using my breaksto look at pictures, catch up with family and friends on facebook. Now they have taken all that away, and are sucking the life out of us. We work during our lunch hour often enough, and I don’t hear any employers complaining about that.

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By: frankp http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110581 frankp Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:17:56 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110581 I think all companies should block access to Facebook, YouTube, personal email and, in fact, any site outside of a tightly moderated list of websited which are deemed useful to the company. I also think cameras should then be installed to document what happens, as I think we have all forgotten how we wasted time before the internet came along. I think all companies should block access to Facebook, YouTube, personal email and, in fact, any site outside of a tightly moderated list of websited which are deemed useful to the company.

I also think cameras should then be installed to document what happens, as I think we have all forgotten how we wasted time before the internet came along.

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By: David Stuart http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110564 David Stuart Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:04:27 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110564 ...probably not a Facebook specific policy (unless the world goes more facebook crazy than it already is), but possibly an opportunity to reassess an organisation's general internet usage policy with specific reference to social networks...I doubt that such policies are reassessed regularly, rather only in reaction to a crisis …probably not a Facebook specific policy (unless the world goes more facebook crazy than it already is), but possibly an opportunity to reassess an organisation’s general internet usage policy with specific reference to social networks…I doubt that such policies are reassessed regularly, rather only in reaction to a crisis

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By: Michael Clarke http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110563 Michael Clarke Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:36:05 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110563 I'm with Tom on this on - worse case scenario, it's healthier than fag breaks; best case, it's another channel for building and reinforcing business networks without having to leave the office. Bad news for golf players, good news for the rest of us. I’m with Tom on this on - worse case scenario, it’s healthier than fag breaks; best case, it’s another channel for building and reinforcing business networks without having to leave the office. Bad news for golf players, good news for the rest of us.

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By: Twenty Major http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110562 Twenty Major Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:24:52 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110562 Yes, I would block YouTube and personal email. <i>You don’t block those because you trust your employees to use them productively</i> How can any employee use YouTube productively? And if you think the majority of people are using Facebook in a way that benefits their company then I think you're wrong. They use it to chat to friends and to idle time away - not to improve their work. Seriously, it's 99% fluff and crap and while some people might use it to arrange a meeting or something the majority certainly do not. Yes, I would block YouTube and personal email.

You don’t block those because you trust your employees to use them productively

How can any employee use YouTube productively? And if you think the majority of people are using Facebook in a way that benefits their company then I think you’re wrong.

They use it to chat to friends and to idle time away - not to improve their work.

Seriously, it’s 99% fluff and crap and while some people might use it to arrange a meeting or something the majority certainly do not.

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By: Tom Raftery http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110560 Tom Raftery Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:15:58 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110560 @Twenty, most of what is on YouTube is irrelevant, will you block that too? In fact most email and most of what is on the Internet is irrelevant, why not block those too? You don't block those because you trust your employees to use them productively. Why should FaceBook be any different? @Twenty, most of what is on YouTube is irrelevant, will you block that too?

In fact most email and most of what is on the Internet is irrelevant, why not block those too?

You don’t block those because you trust your employees to use them productively. Why should FaceBook be any different?

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By: Twenty Major http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110559 Twenty Major Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:09:55 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110559 But most of what's on Facebook is completely irrelevant to most companies and employees. If I block Facebook it means I want my employees, the ones I pay, to do whatever their work is and not fanny around on some website that's little more than a toy. But most of what’s on Facebook is completely irrelevant to most companies and employees.

If I block Facebook it means I want my employees, the ones I pay, to do whatever their work is and not fanny around on some website that’s little more than a toy.

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By: Tom Raftery http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110558 Tom Raftery Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:03:42 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110558 @David - the ground rules for its usage could probably be covered by the companys Internet Usage policy. I don't see a need for a FaceBook-specific policy. @Twenty - from a HR perspective, the message you are sending out to potential employees when you block FaceBook is: New trends = taboo at our company (we fear change) We don’t like the Internet We don’t trust you From a sales perspective, people put lots of personal info into their FaceBook profile - this, properly used by sales staff should greatly increase the chance of landing sales! Turn it around (if you want to be that paranoid employer) and if all your employees are on FaceBook, what better way to get to know them then by reading their FaceBook profiles! Btw LifeHacker has a post you might be interested in <a href="http://lifehacker.com/software/technophilia/get-productive-with-the-best-facebook-apps-282914.php">listing productivity apps in FaceBook </a>so you could, in fact, use it to make your staff more productive! @David - the ground rules for its usage could probably be covered by the companys Internet Usage policy. I don’t see a need for a FaceBook-specific policy.

@Twenty - from a HR perspective, the message you are sending out to potential employees when you block FaceBook is:
New trends = taboo at our company (we fear change)
We don’t like the Internet
We don’t trust you

From a sales perspective, people put lots of personal info into their FaceBook profile - this, properly used by sales staff should greatly increase the chance of landing sales!

Turn it around (if you want to be that paranoid employer) and if all your employees are on FaceBook, what better way to get to know them then by reading their FaceBook profiles!

Btw LifeHacker has a post you might be interested in listing productivity apps in FaceBook so you could, in fact, use it to make your staff more productive!

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By: Twenty Major http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110554 Twenty Major Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:08:54 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110554 No, not at all. Perhaps for some webby based companies it <b>might</b> possibly have some merit but for your average Joe who has internet access in work there's no need to use it and brings no benefit to the company. No, not at all. Perhaps for some webby based companies it might possibly have some merit but for your average Joe who has internet access in work there’s no need to use it and brings no benefit to the company.

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By: Branedy http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110553 Branedy Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:47:51 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110553 say's he, with tongue in cheeky! say’s he, with tongue in cheeky!

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By: Twenty Major http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110552 Twenty Major Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:28:36 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110552 Sorry Tom, but that's a load of crap. I fail to see how 'Mary Smith is happy about the sunny day' and sending each other crappy invitations to stupid groups or applications which turn you into a zombie are any use to any employer. That's about the extent of Facebook's usefulness. I'd restrict access to it in a flash. It's a time waster, nothing more. In fact, I'd fire any employee I found using it. They should do it on their own time, not company time. Sorry Tom, but that’s a load of crap.

I fail to see how ‘Mary Smith is happy about the sunny day’ and sending each other crappy invitations to stupid groups or applications which turn you into a zombie are any use to any employer. That’s about the extent of Facebook’s usefulness.

I’d restrict access to it in a flash. It’s a time waster, nothing more. In fact, I’d fire any employee I found using it. They should do it on their own time, not company time.

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By: David Stuart http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-110550 David Stuart Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:54:10 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/should-employers-be-blocking-access-to-facebook/#comment-110550 Whilst employers shouldn't ban Facebook, it's probably a good idea to lay down some ground rules about its usage...i.e., what/how much is appropriate within work hours...if employees can be trusted (a big 'if' in my opinion) then they need to know what is appropriate behaviour Whilst employers shouldn’t ban Facebook, it’s probably a good idea to lay down some ground rules about its usage…i.e., what/how much is appropriate within work hours…if employees can be trusted (a big ‘if’ in my opinion) then they need to know what is appropriate behaviour

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