Comments on: Salim Ismail interview podcast http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/ Tom Raftery, social media consultant, speaker, blogger and podcaster Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:53:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Sneak peek at edgeio! « Tom Raftery’s I.T. views http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-4921 Sneak peek at edgeio! « Tom Raftery’s I.T. views Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:02:08 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-4921 [...] This is very similar in theory to the structured blogging concept Salim Ismail of PubSub talked about when I interviewed him here last December. I haven’t talked to michael about edgeio (yet) so I don’t know if edgeio will read and display structured blogging metadata. [...] […] This is very similar in theory to the structured blogging concept Salim Ismail of PubSub talked about when I interviewed him here last December. I haven’t talked to michael about edgeio (yet) so I don’t know if edgeio will read and display structured blogging metadata. […]

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By: You’ve Got Ismail! » Evolution of the Internet http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3831 You’ve Got Ismail! » Evolution of the Internet Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:43:45 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3831 [...] If you’re looking for an audio version of some of what I’ve written (and more), check out Tom Raftery’s podcast interview with me… [...] […] If you’re looking for an audio version of some of what I’ve written (and more), check out Tom Raftery’s podcast interview with me… […]

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By: You’ve Got Ismail! » Podcasts http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3783 You’ve Got Ismail! » Podcasts Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:54:58 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3783 [...] I also met Tom Raftery at LesBlogs, which was great fun because I lived in Cork for a while (10 years ago!), one of my most memorable professional stints. Tom interviewed me for a podcast which is a great overview of PubSub and what we’re up to. He then did a second podcast in which I cover how publish-subscribe will influence enterprises; I make some eyebrow-raising claims about how it’ll totally transform enterprises and business processes. In short, I believe we’re on the edge of a major cycle in business computing where event processing will have a 10x impact in enterprises compared to web technologies . This is essentially the ‘live web’ implemented in organizations - [terminology attributed to Allen Searls by Doc]. (there, now you don’t have to bother listening) [...] […] I also met Tom Raftery at LesBlogs, which was great fun because I lived in Cork for a while (10 years ago!), one of my most memorable professional stints. Tom interviewed me for a podcast which is a great overview of PubSub and what we’re up to. He then did a second podcast in which I cover how publish-subscribe will influence enterprises; I make some eyebrow-raising claims about how it’ll totally transform enterprises and business processes. In short, I believe we’re on the edge of a major cycle in business computing where event processing will have a 10x impact in enterprises compared to web technologies . This is essentially the ‘live web’ implemented in organizations - [terminology attributed to Allen Searls by Doc]. (there, now you don’t have to bother listening) […]

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By: Launch of Structured Blogging « Tom Raftery’s I.T. views http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3087 Launch of Structured Blogging « Tom Raftery’s I.T. views Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:46:31 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3087 [...] This is very fortuitous timing - Salim pre-announced the structured blogging initiative in his amazing podcast on this site last week and co-incidentally, I am interviewing Marc canter at the end of this week for a podcast to be published next week! [...] […] This is very fortuitous timing - Salim pre-announced the structured blogging initiative in his amazing podcast on this site last week and co-incidentally, I am interviewing Marc canter at the end of this week for a podcast to be published next week! […]

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By: PodLeaders - Thought Leaders podcast » Blog Archive » Salim Ismail podcast http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3066 PodLeaders - Thought Leaders podcast » Blog Archive » Salim Ismail podcast Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:49:48 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3066 [...] The show notes for Salim’s interview are here and you can download the podcast here (9.7mb mp3). Technorati Tags: Salim Ismail [...] […] The show notes for Salim’s interview are here and you can download the podcast here (9.7mb mp3). Technorati Tags: Salim Ismail […]

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By: PubSub Sandbox » Salim Ismail interviewed by Tom Raftery http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3052 PubSub Sandbox » Salim Ismail interviewed by Tom Raftery Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:08:04 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3052 [...] here and here. [...] […] here and here. […]

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By: Salim Ismail interview podcast II « Tom Raftery’s I.T. views http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3046 Salim Ismail interview podcast II « Tom Raftery’s I.T. views Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:57:20 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3046 [...] As promised, here is the second interview with Salim Ismail - Salim is CEO of PubSub and he very kindly agreed to come back on the show to follow-up on some of the things we talked about in the last podcast - if you haven’t listened to the first interview I did with Salim, I would strongly advise you to listen to that podcast before listening to this one. [...] […] As promised, here is the second interview with Salim Ismail - Salim is CEO of PubSub and he very kindly agreed to come back on the show to follow-up on some of the things we talked about in the last podcast - if you haven’t listened to the first interview I did with Salim, I would strongly advise you to listen to that podcast before listening to this one. […]

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By: Imeallach http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3042 Imeallach Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:48:38 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3042 Anyone who uses tags is going to want to use structured blogging. By tagging your posts you express a desire to see them included in aggregations of those tags, in the hope that your opinions will be represented in the aggregate. I use ZDNet reviews and comparison charts before buying gadgets. ZDNet pay dozens of journalists to review hundreds of products and a lot of effort goes into producing detailed reviews, under structured categories, which allow accurate comparisons, to enable informed purchases. Now, take away "dozens of journalists" and insert "thousands of bloggers". You can scale the number of products reviewed accordingly. Listen to the recent <a href="http://attentiontech.podshow.com/?p=22">Attention Tech</a> podcast featuring Dave Winer and ZDNet's Dan Farber. Dave thinks career journalism is going to go the way of <a href="http://www.scripting.com/2005/11/30.html#When:9:53:23PM">horse-drawn carriages</a>. Structured blogging is a step in that direction. Tom - this was a fantastic interview, and I'm looking forward to part 2. I had no idea what pubsub was about before this. Planning a move off blogger to wordpress soon, so I'll be trying the new for myself. Anyone who uses tags is going to want to use structured blogging. By tagging your posts you express a desire to see them included in aggregations of those tags, in the hope that your opinions will be represented in the aggregate.

I use ZDNet reviews and comparison charts before buying gadgets. ZDNet pay dozens of journalists to review hundreds of products and a lot of effort goes into producing detailed reviews, under structured categories, which allow accurate comparisons, to enable informed purchases.

Now, take away “dozens of journalists” and insert “thousands of bloggers”. You can scale the number of products reviewed accordingly.

Listen to the recent Attention Tech podcast featuring Dave Winer and ZDNet’s Dan Farber. Dave thinks career journalism is going to go the way of horse-drawn carriages. Structured blogging is a step in that direction.

Tom - this was a fantastic interview, and I’m looking forward to part 2. I had no idea what pubsub was about before this. Planning a move off blogger to wordpress soon, so I’ll be trying the new for myself.

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By: Teblog http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3024 Teblog Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:02:27 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3024 <strong>The value of podcasting</strong> Okay, I've been less than complementary about podcasting in the past. Just because it didn't suit me. Since then I've listened to an interview with IBM's social media supremo, Mike Wing, courtesy of Neville Hobson and Shel Holtz. Dennis Howlett The value of podcasting

Okay, I’ve been less than complementary about podcasting in the past. Just because it didn’t suit me. Since then I’ve listened to an interview with IBM’s social media supremo, Mike Wing, courtesy of Neville Hobson and Shel Holtz. Dennis Howlett

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By: Damien Mulley http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3017 Damien Mulley Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:11:11 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3017 Read Marc Canter's blog for more about structured blogging and microformats! Read Marc Canter’s blog for more about structured blogging and microformats!

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By: Tom Raftery http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3016 Tom Raftery Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:16:55 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3016 @Frank - Salim answered many of your questions in the 2nd interview. I hope to publish that one on monday, so keep an ear out! @Piaras - if you are interested in seeing how it is delivered, why not try out the <a href="http://structuredblogging.org/wordpress/?page_id=8">WordPress structured blogging plugin</a>? No doubt Ecto will update to take structured blogging into account - if not, they will be left behind - mind you, I prefer the web interface - many of the other plugins don't work with the likes of Ecto - think <a href="www.neato.co.nz/ultimate-tag-warrior/">Ultimate Tagging Warrior</a>, for example. @Frank - Salim answered many of your questions in the 2nd interview. I hope to publish that one on monday, so keep an ear out!

@Piaras - if you are interested in seeing how it is delivered, why not try out the WordPress structured blogging plugin?

No doubt Ecto will update to take structured blogging into account - if not, they will be left behind - mind you, I prefer the web interface - many of the other plugins don’t work with the likes of Ecto - think Ultimate Tagging Warrior, for example.

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By: Piaras Kelly http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3011 Piaras Kelly Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:49:02 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3011 Yeah I remember him talking about this stuff at les Blogs, it's good to hear an in depth talk on it because he didn't have that much time to talk about it. Yeah I'm not that convinced by structured blogging. I'd be interested in seeing how this is delivered. It sounds to me that there is another degree of complicity being added for the lay man and that he simply won't use it. Take the Harry Potter example that he gives. I can just go to Metacritic and get it. So if I'm a lay person who is posting a review, why wouldn't I just post as usual and submit to Meta Critic. Espeicially in light of the fact that more people are turning to desktop publishing tools like ecto, so the WordPress pulgin is effectively rendered useless What I'm excited about and finally glad to see someone is finally doing is categorised feeds, in that people can search for specifics. I'm just not so sure how quick people will be to actually put the content into that structure. I know that I wouldn't be that bothered. I'm going to hold off evangalising this until I see the structure and interface. Any chance of some pics? Yeah I remember him talking about this stuff at les Blogs, it’s good to hear an in depth talk on it because he didn’t have that much time to talk about it.

Yeah I’m not that convinced by structured blogging. I’d be interested in seeing how this is delivered. It sounds to me that there is another degree of complicity being added for the lay man and that he simply won’t use it.

Take the Harry Potter example that he gives. I can just go to Metacritic and get it. So if I’m a lay person who is posting a review, why wouldn’t I just post as usual and submit to Meta Critic. Espeicially in light of the fact that more people are turning to desktop publishing tools like ecto, so the WordPress pulgin is effectively rendered useless

What I’m excited about and finally glad to see someone is finally doing is categorised feeds, in that people can search for specifics. I’m just not so sure how quick people will be to actually put the content into that structure. I know that I wouldn’t be that bothered.

I’m going to hold off evangalising this until I see the structure and interface. Any chance of some pics?

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By: Salim Ismail http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3010 Salim Ismail Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:12:46 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-3010 Hi Frank... great questions! Tom is interviewing me again, and I'll start by answering your questions (or attempting to, anyway)... enjoy the poker... Hi Frank… great questions! Tom is interviewing me again, and I’ll start by answering your questions (or attempting to, anyway)… enjoy the poker…

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By: frankp http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2994 frankp Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:57:24 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2994 So many questions... Structured blogging sounds really interesting... not sure what I make of it yet. It has obvious advantages in certain areas certainly, and I look forward to seeing the next set of tools... The following are my initial questions... (sorry if they are somewhat confused, still trying to grasp exactly what's coming down the line here...) What types of content does Salim believe will be, and should be, structured - is it possible/desirable to try to structure everything, or is there a very specific list of content types to be structured? Is structured blogging a commercial tool, or at least does Salim foresee it being taken up primarily for commercial uses? I ask this last one because it strikes me that average Joe will not want to structure anything (deal with more fields, extra clicks etc) unless there is a return on his investment for doing so - any additional effort in posting to his blog will have to yield results other than visual differenciation (I think!). So, quicker uptake by potential buyers for his 'Bike for Sale' post might be worth the effort, but that post about what he had for breakfast isn't really going to benefit from structure... or is it? Which leads me to my next question - could structured blogging radically change the signal/noise ratio by reducing the interest level in 'what i had for breakfast' type posts and therefore reducing the level of interest in producing them? If so, is this a good thing? Is there a move to make Structured Blogging, or structured publishing, an actual web standard? And finally (for now)... Is structure more desirable/achievable than the ability to determine relevance? phew... and that's just for starters...! But I have to go play poker :P So many questions…

Structured blogging sounds really interesting… not sure what I make of it yet. It has obvious advantages in certain areas certainly, and I look forward to seeing the next set of tools…

The following are my initial questions… (sorry if they are somewhat confused, still trying to grasp exactly what’s coming down the line here…)

What types of content does Salim believe will be, and should be, structured - is it possible/desirable to try to structure everything, or is there a very specific list of content types to be structured?

Is structured blogging a commercial tool, or at least does Salim foresee it being taken up primarily for commercial uses?

I ask this last one because it strikes me that average Joe will not want to structure anything (deal with more fields, extra clicks etc) unless there is a return on his investment for doing so - any additional effort in posting to his blog will have to yield results other than visual differenciation (I think!).
So, quicker uptake by potential buyers for his ‘Bike for Sale’ post might be worth the effort, but that post about what he had for breakfast isn’t really going to benefit from structure… or is it?

Which leads me to my next question - could structured blogging radically change the signal/noise ratio by reducing the interest level in ‘what i had for breakfast’ type posts and therefore reducing the level of interest in producing them? If so, is this a good thing?

Is there a move to make Structured Blogging, or structured publishing, an actual web standard?

And finally (for now)…

Is structure more desirable/achievable than the ability to determine relevance?

phew… and that’s just for starters…! But I have to go play poker :P

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By: Tom Raftery I.T. » Blog Archive » Salim Ismail podcast http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2992 Tom Raftery I.T. » Blog Archive » Salim Ismail podcast Fri, 09 Dec 2005 19:42:34 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2992 [...] I will be doing a follow-up interview and publishing it next week - in the meantime, if you are interested, at all, in web publishing, you need to hear what Salim has to say - check out the interview here. [...] […] I will be doing a follow-up interview and publishing it next week - in the meantime, if you are interested, at all, in web publishing, you need to hear what Salim has to say - check out the interview here. […]

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By: Tom Raftery http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2991 Tom Raftery Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:32:06 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2991 Thanks Salim - likewise - but the Murphy's on me! Thanks Salim - likewise - but the Murphy’s on me!

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By: Salim Ismail http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2990 Salim Ismail Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:01:59 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2990 Tom, it was really fun talking to you... let's have a pint of Murphy's one day (in Cork!) Tom, it was really fun talking to you… let’s have a pint of Murphy’s one day (in Cork!)

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By: frankp http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2989 frankp Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:40:14 +0000 http://www.tomrafteryit.net/salim-ismail-interview-podcast/#comment-2989 hmmm.. REALLY interesting interview, thanks Tom (and Salim!). While I didn't have any questions prior to the interview I sure have a lot of them now! If only I could formulate them - still trying to figure out the connotations of Structured Blogging! I'll be back! hmmm.. REALLY interesting interview, thanks Tom (and Salim!).

While I didn’t have any questions prior to the interview I sure have a lot of them now! If only I could formulate them - still trying to figure out the connotations of Structured Blogging!

I’ll be back!

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